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Re: The new Alpine topic

Postby simontaylor » Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:03 pm

Very nice colour too.
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Re: The new Alpine topic

Postby Tony Smith » Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:28 pm

Custard wrote:No doubt it is a nice looking car but there is no need for any of the electronics apart from the engine management, if it is in homage to the 110 it should be a bit retro and minimalist and would have appealed to old and new generation enthusiasts with dare I say it with a normal style speedo and a normal rev counter and old style oil pressure gauge along with voltage and water temperature that's all you need. In a few years time you can just hear everyone saying oh it's gone really retro the new car it's even got original style dials, when everyone has got bored with electronic gimmicks it is just a car. I think the article in this months Octane mag by Jay Leno page 51 sums it up.


Renault build car with lots of unnecessary electronics in - what could go wrong? I find it so ironic that they never learn their lesson. The electronics in the last generation of family cars - Lagunas , Scenics , Vel Sati (?) (ask Steve:0)) are completely shot to pieces at 10years old. So lets make it even more complicated. Like the look of the car alot and I'm sure it will be dynamically good but for me that paddle shift gearbox and anodyne 4 pot ruin it. I know they need it to appeal to the younger generation of drivers but a high revving 4 cam v6 in the back and a manual box would have made for a much nicer car.
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Re: The new Alpine topic

Postby Custard » Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:47 pm

I am glad it's not just me that thinks the same, it is not just renault look at all the car advertising all they are really pushing are electronic gizmos so you can carry on your connectivity why are you driveing I would imagine that's worse than if you're on the phone. Plus what it's all about is built in obsolescence through technology, The car will become a throwaway item after about 10 years just imagine the technology in 10 years time no one will be out to fix it and it will be so outdated throw it away, guess what you have to buy new one rant over.
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Re: The new Alpine topic

Postby Tony Smith » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:50 pm

I can't believe people really want (and they definitely don't need) most of the stuff fitted on cars now. Parking sensors on tiny cars, digital dashboards, synthesized exhaust noises etc etc
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Press Launch

Postby paulrob100 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:24 pm

You'll want one after this

BTW 1080kg fully fuelled - Not bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QbX83ncxeU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu55De8kp00
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Re: The new Alpine topic

Postby Tony Smith » Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:05 pm

So about 250per ton, same as a 300 bhp GTA. My V8 one will chew it up and spit it out :0)
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Re: The new Alpine topic

Postby simontaylor » Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:12 pm

1080 KG, same as my GTA.
weight balance the same as my GTA.
250 bhp, less than my GTA
whats the torque? Whats the Turbo, lets see under the skin soon :-)
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Re: The new Alpine topic

Postby stephendell » Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:51 pm

350Nm

Here's the full press release:


PRESS KIT

EMBARGO 12h30 UK 07 March 2017

ALPINE IS BACK
A110: the compact and agile French sports car

One year after the presentation of the Alpine Vision show car, Alpine revealed today at the Geneva Motor Show its production car: the new A110.
Combining the timeless Alpine principles of light weight, agility and performance, this mid-engined two-seater sports coupe is true to the spirit of its predecessors and in particular the A110 ‘Berlinette’. The new car will be built in the Alpine factory in Dieppe and deliveries will start late 2017 in Continental Europe. Deliveries in the UK and Japan will start in 2018.
Alpine is back to claim its position in the sports car segment, with only one promise: driving pleasure.

A CAR DESIGNED FOR AGILITY
A compact and lightweight sports car
The A110’s aluminium platform and body are bonded, riveted and welded to provide an exceptionally rigid yet light structure.

The A110 is ultra-light at only 1080kg kerb weight (excluding options). Its compact size (4178mm long, 1798mm wide and 1252mm high), optimal weight distribution (44% front/ 56% rear) and low centre of gravity are all dedicated to agility – especially on the type of winding mountain road that made Alpine’s reputation back in the 1960s and ‘70s.

Alpine’s mass is also concentrated around the centre of the car, with the fuel tank behind the front axle and the engine in front of the rear axle, enabling the driver to feel at one with the car.
Excellent power-to-weight ratio
The A110 is equipped with a new 1.8-litre 4-cylinder turbocharged engine developed by the Renault-Nissan Alliance. Alpine’s engineers, together with Renault Sport, have customized this engine for Alpine, with specific air intake, turbocharger, exhaust system and engine tune. The engine has a maximum power output of 252hp and maximum torque of 320Nm. Combined with the low kerb weight of only 1080kg, the A110’s excellent power-to-weight ratio of 233hp:tonne enables the car to accelerate from 0 to 62mph in only 4.5 seconds.
The engine is mated to a Getrag 7-speed wet-clutch DCT gearbox, with gear ratios specifically developed for Alpine to ensure optimal performance at all times. Aided by intensive use of fluid dynamics simulation, the lightweight, single exit active sports exhaust system in the A110 has been developed for performance and sound quality.
The A110 has three driver modes (Normal, Sport, Track) in which the engine and gearbox settings, steering, ESC, exhaust note and driver display are adapted to suit the driving conditions (and the driver’s mood).

RACING-INPIRED AERODYNAMICS
A flat floor worthy of a race car, tried and tested in the wind tunnel.
In search of a combination of sleek lines and excellent performance, Alpine’s engineers turned to the world of race cars and supercars to optimize the aerodynamics of the A110. With a completely flat floor and functional diffuser under the rear bumper, the A110 combines low drag with significant downforce.
This allows the A110 to reach an electronically limited 155mph top speed, while retaining a smooth ‘Alpine’ profile - without the need for a rear spoiler.
Air inlets in the front bumper create a curtain along the front wheel wells, improving air flow around the front wheels and hence reducing drag.
With a Cd value of only 0.32, the A110’s drag is among the lowest in the sports car segment.

A MODERN DESIGN, TRUE TO ITS HERITAGE
The A110 is highly modern yet immediately recognisable as an Alpine. It combines modern design language, materials and technologies with the efficiency of size, shape and profile that marked the original A110 Berlinette.
At the front, four independent full LED daytime running lights and the bonnet’s central ‘spine’ clearly show Alpine’s DNA.
The side profile shows the design’s efficiency – bodywork wrapped tightly around the technical parts to minimise footprint and maximize performance.
At the rear, ‘X’ shaped LED tail lights with dynamic turn indicators give the car a highly modern look, while the sloping, wrap-around rear screen reminds us of Alpine’s past models.
Inside the A110 minimalist, lightweight design merges with a welcoming, comfortable driving position. Top quality materials – smooth natural-grain leather, structural aluminium, carbon fibre – ensure a rewarding driver and passenger experience.

PERFORMANCE AND COMFORT – EVERY DAY
The light weight of the A110, combined with double wishbones front and rear, provide a rare combination – excellent handling and performance while at the same time offering great ride comfort and daily usability.
Access and egress are designed to be easy, even in everyday use. Driver and passenger space will accommodate all shapes and sizes.
In short, the A110 is as at home in everyday driving as it is on the track.

THE BEST COMPONENTS FROM THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS
In developing the A110, Alpine’s engineers and designers identified the best suppliers to ensure the best performance, fit & finish. Some examples:
 Brembo developed the A110’s all-aluminium brake calipers. The rear brake system, specific to Alpine, features an integrated parking brake actuator, a world first, saving 2.5kg.
 Otto Fuchs provided the 18-inch lightweight forged aluminium wheels on the A110, saving additional weight and offering a beautiful ‘open’ look

 Sabelt developed one-piece bucket seats that weigh just 13.1kgs each, with no compromise on comfort.

A110 PREMIERE EDITION SPECIFICATIONS
The Alpine A110 Première Edition is a numbered, limited edition production run of 1,955 cars. 1,955 refers to the year that Jean Rédélé launched Alpine.
The Première Edition is richly equipped including:
 Alpine Blue, Noir Profond (black) or Blanc Solaire (white) paint
 18-inch Otto Fuchs forged aluminium wheels, with matt black diamond turned finish specific to Première Edition
 Three driver modes with ‘Normal’, ‘Sport’ and ‘Track’ settings
 Performance braking system with dual-material brake discs with aluminium hub and rear calipers incorporating integrated parking brake
 Lightweight active sports exhaust
 Alpine-tuned Focal audio system
 Matte carbon fibre interior accents
 Brushed aluminium pedals
 Quilted smooth natural-grain leather Sabelt one-piece sports seats
 ‘Tricolore’ blue, white and red badging inside and outside
 …and a numbered ‘Première Edition’ plaque on the centre console.
In 2018, after the production run of Première Edition is completed, several A110 trim levels will be available, supplemented by a wide range of personalisation options.

A110 PREMIERE EDITION PRICING
Alpine has set its tentative recommended retail price for the Première Edition at
 58,500 Euros TTC (VAT included) in France
 64,000 Swiss Francs (VAT included) in Switzerland.
Final prices will be confirmed at the start of formal orders in mid-2017.

A110 PREMIERE EDITION AVAILABILITY
Alpine opened reservations for its A110 Première Edition in December 2016 through the dedicated Alpine mobile App. All available left hand drive Première Edition cars were reserved in 5 days.
A small number of right hand drive cars remains for the United Kingdom market (deliveries will start in 2018), and reservations for the Japanese market will commence in the coming weeks.
The Alpine App remains open for reservations of the A110 production model that will be produced in 2018 after the deliveries of the A110 Première Edition are completed.

DESIGNED IN FRANCE, MADE IN FRANCE
The A110 has been designed and engineered in France, in Groupe Renault’s Technocentre in Guyancourt and in Renault Sport’s engineering centre in Les Ulis.
All A110s will be manufactured in the Alpine factory in Dieppe – its historical and spiritual home.
The Dieppe factory was built in 1969 by Jean Rédélé, and it was here that all generations of Alpines were built since then. Since Alpine production halted in the 1990s, The Dieppe factory has been building Renault Sport and other niche models from Groupe Renault such as the Clio V6, the Espace and currently the Clio R.S. Additionally, the Dieppe factory assembles many of Renault’s customer racing cars such as the Formula Renault 2.0.
Dieppe’s experienced specialist staff have all the expertise needed to build an excellent sports car. The factory is completing a multi-million Euro investment including a highly automated new body assembly facility dedicated to the A110’s all-aluminium platform and body.

A DEDICATED ALPINE DEALER NETWORK
Deliveries of the new Alpine A110 will commence late 2017 in the following countries:
 Austria
 Belgium
 France
 Germany
 Italy
 Luxembourg
 The Netherlands
 Poland
 Portugal
 Spain
 Switzerland
Deliveries in the United Kingdom and Japan (RHD) will commence in 2018.
A network of around 60 dedicated Alpine showrooms will open before A110 deliveries commence, managed by dealers selected from the best of Groupe Renault’s existing partners. Dedicated Alpine advisors will ensure that the Alpine customers will be served by people as knowledgeable and passionate about Alpine as they are themselves. The first Alpine showroom will open late March 2017 in Boulogne-Billancourt, Paris.

ALPINE KEY DATES
1955: Creation of ‘Société des Automobiles Alpine’. Launch of the A106
1962: Alpine A110
1971: 1st victory at the Monte Carlo rally
1973: Alpine wins International Championship for manufacturers. Acquired by Groupe Renault
1976: Alpine A310 V6
1978: Alpine wins Le Mans
1985: Alpine GTA
1991: Alpine A610
1995: Alpine production discontinued
2012: Announcement of an Alpine car project
2015: Presentation of Alpine Célébration at Le Mans
2016: Alpine relaunch announced and presentation of Alpine Vision
TECHNICAL DATA – A110 PREMIÈRE EDITION

A110 Première Edition
Year 2017
Fuel type Petrol
Recommended Retail Price France incl. VAT (provisional) 58 500 €
Engine type 1.8L 4cyl. 16v
Maximum power 252hp @ 6000rpm
Maximum torque 320Nm
Architecture Mid Engine, rear-wheel drive
Gearbox type 7 speed DCT, wet clutch
Unladen weight (DIN) 1,103kg
Power-to-weight ratio 228hp:tonne
Dimensions 4,178/,1798/1,252 mm (L/W/H)
Wheelbase 2,419mm
Track width, front 1,556mm
Track width, rear 1,553mm
Chassis

front axle
rear axle Double wishbone
Double wishbone
Brakes

front

rear 4 piston fixed caliper
320mm
single piston floating caliper
320mm
Aero Cd*A: 0.621m²
Cd: 0.32
Fuel tank 45-litres
Boot capacity 100-litres rear
96-litres front
Wheels and tyres 205/40R18 (front) - 235/40R18 (rear)
Top speed 155mph (limited)
0 to 62mph 4.5 seconds
Fuel consumption (combined NEDC)* 45.5mpg
CO2 * <140g/km CO2
*subject to official confirmation
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Re: The new Alpine topic

Postby Custard » Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:23 pm

The geek bits, fluid dynamics stimulation, Single active sports exhaust ESC exhaust note driver display. I think this means semi automatic, and the exhaust note is not that good as it's a 4 banger so you got a speaker inside the car for exhaust note enhancement. LOL
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Re: The new Alpine topic

Postby simontaylor » Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:09 pm

Wide ass, 44mm wider than a GTA.
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Re: The new Alpine topic

Postby Alpineandy » Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:34 pm

Custard wrote:Single active sports exhaust ESC exhaust note driver display. I think this means semi automatic

Translates to 'More gadgetry to go wrong and cost two arms and a leg to replace (as they're not repairable)'...

They really missed the point of the A110, light and basic = a pure driving experience.
Similar idea with the spider and the Elise but the new A110 does seem to be missing the mark by a kilometre or two...
I can understand them offering loads of 'add on' stuff for the Kensington/MonteCarlo residing buyers but the first offering should be a lightweight basic model for people that are buying off the nostalgia of the original.
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Re: The new Alpine topic

Postby Tony Smith » Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:31 pm

clee wrote:
Tony Smith wrote:So about 250per ton, same as a 300 bhp GTA. My V8 one will chew it up and spit it out :0)


Your kitcar you mean :MoreSarc
No PRV = No GTA :geek:


Sorry mate don't recall you being charge of making the rules :0)
See below, the definition for you so you don't make the same mistake again. :0)

KIT CAR
(kɪt kɑː)

noun
a car that is supplied as a set of pieces ready to be assembled
Collins English Dictionary. Copyright © HarperCollins Publishers

Plenty of cars around with non original engines they aren't kit cars. Noone calls the Ls engined TVRs kit cars , or the Range Rovers with the Chevy conversions.

No PRV = Goes better, sounds better, more reliable :0)
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Re: The new Alpine topic

Postby Tony Smith » Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:32 pm

I am thinking of badging it GT8 though :0
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Re: The new Alpine topic

Postby Alpineandy » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:20 pm

Tony Smith wrote:I am thinking of badging it GT8

You could copy the Continental name and call it a GT V8
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Re: The new Alpine topic

Postby Tony Smith » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:31 pm

clee wrote:No rules mam just the facts :Butt


I refer you to the previous definition of kit car I posted. I didn't buy my car in bits for self assembly :0)
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