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Postby Tony Smith » Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:31 am

SorryTrev, I never saw your question about tyres until today. I've used a few track bias tyres on GTAs and other cars over the years so well placed to give an opinion. The Toyo R888 is incredibly grippy for a road legal tyre but the stiff sidewall definitely has a detrimental affect on the ride as they are very stiff. The yokis were good in there day and its a long time since I used them but I certainly don't remember them being as good as the R888's. Another tyre you might want to consider - and they are a good chunk cheaper than the Toyo - is the Federal RSR. Had these on my Clio cup and I reckon were at least as grippy as the R888 but the side wall was not as stiff. They also seemed to have very progressive breakaway which might be useful on a rear engined car. They did wear noticeably faster than the Toyos though. Worked better when cold than the Toyos too.

If your going to do a few track days I'd definitely go for a set of 17's with the Toyos all round. If its a once in a blue moon thing why not grab a couple of 2nd hand fronts and try the Federals. I wouldn't worry too much about the rears as long as they are decent condition, it's quelling the understeer that will make the car faster and more enjoyable to drive.
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Postby Tony Smith » Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:34 am

Oh and while the wheels are off fit a set of Ferodo DS 2500 pads, these give much more bite and resistance to fade - you will notice the diference believe me :lol:
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Postby Will » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:26 am

My car is on standard wheels, 15 inch front wheels give the best steering!

On the track/hill I have been running Toyo r888's 195/55/15 you can run a lower profile at 195/50/15 but my car is lowered on stiff springs and I found the lower profile had a detrimental effect on ride! About £120 a tyre.

On the rear I run 235/50/15 which I found to be the best, you can't get 255/50/15 in the r888, an alternative is 225/50/15 but not as wide, I have not tried these. The 235/50/15 are quite hard to come by but demon tweaks can get them, cost is about £185 per tyre.

You can get the r888's in various compounds, I use the medium.

On the road I use toyo proxes t1r's, great tryre and cheap fronts are about £40! Rears about £80! Available in sizes 195/55/15 or 195/50/15 front and rear the 225/50/15.

Hope this helps!
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Postby Trevor Skedge » Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:53 pm

Thanks both for your replies and wish I had them two days ago but that's life. As I said in my post I have ordered Khumo Ecsta V70a's for the rear so wil have to give these a go first. I'm a little surprised you found understeer as my plan was to introduce a little as a way for countering oversteer that I had experienced on the road. Perhaps I should rethink then and get stickier rubber for the front? Currently running 195/50 15 Pirelli P6000, what do you think?
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Postby mogster242 » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:34 pm

I run toyos r888 medium compound 195/50/15 on front and 235/50/15 on rear as previously fitted by Andrew TurboDog

I think they are amazing tyres with loads of grip but I haven't tried anything else so can't compare...

Totally agree with Tony on ferodo ds 2500 pads well worth it
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Postby Tony Smith » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:02 pm

There's usually pads on Ebay :lol:
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Postby si21 » Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:34 am

Hi Tony how.much were.the Federalsand do they do a nice 255 in an 18 do you know? These tyres sound ideal for sprinting and hill climbing due to their quick.warm up; what sort of money were they in comparison to the 888's as i must get some hillclimbs and sprints in next year the car going really well since i found a faulty main power supply and replaced it shes pulling like atrain ...for an Atmo!!! :shock: :lol:

be interesting to know?
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Postby Tony Smith » Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:20 pm

Camskill actually have a deal on 255 -35 18's at the minute for £135 , same size Toyo r888 is £240. Give me a shout if you get some I might stick a couple away at that money for when my track gta breaks cover.
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